So while Darth Maul is an impressive fighter, he's a really bad match up for General Grievous. If this comment was posted on a thread that is not a Scan Battle, please report it and a mod will come and delete my hard work. … He practiced almost non-stop to perfect his craft. Random encounter on neutral ground. A skilled animal, but an animal nonetheless." Darth Vader: 33% (3422) 2. Grievous 10/10 General Grievous' strength in the movies was not shown very well. This scaling is further backed up by WoG as Dave Filoni said that Maul's threat level is within the same realm as Vader's. 2) General Grievous. Maul has a great shot with his alchemical legs, his feats with them are as good as any of Grievous' unless I'm mistaken. Grievous is my favorite Prequel addition and it’s because I love a character that doesn’t even exist anymore. If we ignore that, Grievous should have a good shot at taking it. Seemed to me obi one dismantled grevious in their light saber duel. This was before Obi-Wan had even mastered form 3 to the degree he had in Revenge of the Sith. Well the score was 2-1 in Maul's favour, and the 2nd one was more of an ambush. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Darth Maul was in his Physical Prime, although he would have a … As for the fight, I’d say Maul due to the Force. 3) Count Dooku. Is that the Quigon with Obiwan fight? Pretty sure Sidious wasn’t going all out on Maul in that fight. He had problems with Obi-Wan, and he was a more straight forward fighter. As a reminder, every claim you make in a scan battle must be backed up by a relevant scan or piece of evidence. Legends + canon feats for both.- Round 1: TPM Maul- Round Grand Admiral Thrawn: 6% (636) 4. Shortly thereafter, however, Maul was captured by his former Sith master, Darth Sidious, and imprisoned on Stygeon Prime. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! Boba Fett: 6% (631) 6. To be fair Kit Fisto could have beaten Grievous if it weren’t for his guards. Essentially, my argument is that Ahsoka is on a similar level to Vader, so Maul stalemating Ahsoka is therefore an incredibly impressive feat that in my opinion is unmatched by Grievous. Though he supposedly died on Naboo at the hands of Obi-Wan Kenobi, he resurfaced years later, having survived through his sheer hatred. Maul, while being somewhat skilled in Lightsaber dueling, was described by Dooku as being "An Animal. You are indeed where you belong. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! He’s not necessarily weaker or stronger than the other Jedi that went against Grievous in any of the animated series simply because he beat him, but his skill set was ideal for the situation. Battle. Round 1: Chief starts with the Assault Rifle and a Magnum with 2 grenades, Grievous starts with 2 sabers on Darth Maul vs Ahsoka Tano Full Fight Star wars The Clone Wars#starwars By birth, Maul was a Nightbrother; a clan of male Zabraks from Dathomir who served as warriors and slaves of the dominant Nightsisters. But he had to kill Fisto before Anakin arrived, and had no reason to keep him alive. They both have about equal speed, but I'll give it to Maul with the Force as an X-factor. There's also how Maul killed Inquisitors in Rebels don't forget that but I'm not sure how they could be scaled. hold off Palpatine's Sith alchemy with her own force power and then cancel it out with some help from Ezra. I would say mail is equally aggressive and brutal but has better skills plus his force powers, Grievous is extremely proficient in all 7 forms of lightsaber combat. Wasn't the reason GG was all coughy in the movie because a Jedi crushed him? Grievous 10/10. My point is, how reliable can scaling be in a versus battle compared to matchups alone? I have to say Maul. Maul, the Dathomirian Zabrak male who would become the feared Darth Maul, was born on Dathomir to Kycina, a Human Nightsister of Mother Talzin's coven and a Zabrak father who, by tradition, was murdered after Maul's conception. Don’t forget to leave a LIKE & Comment! She had definite power, but not a lot that could really apply to combat unless she had time to prepare and use rituals. Maul is also a super aggressive fighter who could defend himself good because he has 3 blades to fight with. Talzin is complicated. The son of Mother Talzin, he was trained by Sidious as a Sith assassin and became an incredibly skilled duelist. Fight to the death, no morals. Sidious intended to use Maul as bait to lure Mothern Talzin, a Dathomir witchand enemy of the Sith, out of hiding so she could be destroyed. Top level comments that are found to break the rules will be removed by the moderators. Star Wars Boss Battle with Darth Maul VS Darth Vader & General Grievous in the NEW Disney Infinity 3.0! Lucas himself has, for example, explicitly stated that Anakin is a 10 skill-wise while Obi-Wan is a 9. But in the comic Star Wars: Darth Maul - Son of Dathomir, Issue No 4, Darth Sidious and Grievous together attack Maul and Mother Talzin. General Grievous: 4% (458) 7. Edit: it was Windu, you guys are right. Other circumstances led to Obi-Wan winning, as in every other fight mentioned here. If we go by their film appearances I'll give to Maul because we see him kill Qui-Gon and fight two Jedi at the same time, while Grievous runs from Ani and Obi and again runs from Obi again on Utapau. It's like Naruto fans saying Itschi could beat six paths sage mode Madara because he put Naruto and Sasuke under genjutsus once. And a Light Side Jedi might have qualms about using crush all the way to kill rather than just wounding him. And if we go EU? If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. But that's not what happened. 1. Shock: And General Grievous the Kaleesh demigod and commander of the droid army. R3- still Grievous, same as R2 She's more powerful than Maul no doubt, but her magics are much less suited for direct combat. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Form 3 was focused on defense above all else, and relied on counters to attack the opponent. You are indeed where you belong. The full rules of a Scan Battle can be found here. Grievous learned battle tactics and warfare during Kalee's war against the Yam'rii of Huk. The UK Star Wars magazine also states that a fight between Vader and Maul would be close as their combat abilities are well-matched, and while I would be cautious in using a UK exclusive magazine as a primary source for that debate, I'm not as much opposed to it here as it is consistent with WoG and feats shown in Rebels. The only way Obi-Wan managed to defeat Grievous was due to him cleverly changing the angles he parries Grievous' attack, until he was able to parry his arms rather than his lightsabers. I don’t think Talzin was very strong when it came to combat. However, they do briefly fight on Zanbar, but neither really gains the upperhand and Maul leaves because the battle is lost, not because Grievous defeats him. I don't necessarily disagree with your final judgement, I just wanted to point that out. Both characters start in a gladiator type arena 20m apart with light cover scattered around and fight bloodlusted to the death. Reddit user u/SainttecWalker theoriezed how Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi learned about the high ground from his duel with the Sith assassin, Darth Maul in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. I honestly think that Mauls more athletic fighting style would give Grievous a little trouble. He knew that Anakin was stronger than him, and behind-the-scenes commentary for RotS confirms it. Hmm, going by movies only I would lean towards Maul but he did go and beat a weaker Obi Wan. Pretty sure Maul would just Force Grip and tear off his limbs one by one like he was plucking a fly. During the Clone Wars, Darth Maul allied himself with the Mandalorian splinter faction Death Watch as part of Maul's Shadow Collective. The Vader she fought was stated by the show creators to be in his prime and unhindered by his emotions. He outright says to Ventress, "we're outmatched.". Halo 5 Master Chief and Episode 3 General Grievous. You can't measure someone's ability in only one metric, like your "Savage is 80% of Maul" bit. Both were defeated by the same man. I mean his speed is insane but it isn’t random and pretty predictable. So I initially planned on splitting up this match between several rounds, but then I realized that it was kind of unnecessary. Ahsoka was in fact able to hold off Palpatine's Sith alchemy with her own force power and then cancel it out with some help from Ezra. DARTH MAUL - 0:22COUNT DOOKU - 3:06GENERAL GRIEVOUS - 5:00FIGHT BREAKDOWN - 7:47Today, well we’ve got three Sith Lords going head to head! By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. After Grievous shoot & killed Nahdar Vebb, Kit Fisto picked up his lightsaber & fought Grievous with Jar’Kai to the point that Grievous was having a hard time with him. The son of his mother and father, Grievous was a Kaleesh warlord and feared warrior from the planet Kalee. Read them over thoroughly before commenting in this thread. CMIIW. He only managed to do this by giving into the force and letting it guide him. Darth Maul wasn't overly powerful in the force, … In the 2008 Clone Wars series, we see Obi-Wan fighting pretty evenly with both Darth Maul and Savage Opress at the same time. If we go by all canon it's probably even more of a stomp for Maul because he does some badass stuff in his comic and The Clone Wars cartoon, whereas Grievous has some pretty weak showings in TCW. During the movies, Mace Windu himself said that Obi-Wan was their best chance of defeating general Grievous, due to him being the greatest master of form 3 light saber combat in the universe. My stupidly long Reddit post: ... Darth Maul. He first appeared in Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace , where he was ordered by his master to capture Queen Amidala of Naboo in order for her to sign a treaty that would legalize the Trade Federation's invasion of the planet. So if Dooku can beat Obi, then the scaling logic would follow that Anakin can beat Obi. Though he certainly is a major threat to Grievous, the fact of the matter is, Grievous has fought and beaten Jedi on and ABOVE Maul's caliber. So, do you want them from the time of Episode 1 and Episode 3, or can we include their other canon appearances? He always came upon her while she was fighting someone else or where she was backed into a corner. One of the biggest reasons that he had trouble with Obi-Wan was Obi-Wan's fighting style, it was a perfect match against him. This and form 5 are perhaps the worst forms to fight Grievous with, because no one could possibly hope to keep up with the offensive capabilities of Grievous with offense. The Emperor: 18% (1897) 3. Not that I disagree with your conclusions, but I don’t think “A>B and B>C so A>C” really works here in this scenario. 8/10 to Grievous. General Grievous VS Darth Maul The epic battle between two fellas that both clearly underestimated Obi-Wan Kenobi. I honestly couldn't say. So it's Darth Maul vs General Grievous from Star Wars. Season 1 episode 2 Redneck Rowlet 2.0 Previous Guzzlord vs Dark Pit next Shock: Out of all of the foes obi Wan Kenobi's beaten these are the two ones who gave him the hardest trouble and have had robotic clawed legs.. Crossfire: Maul the Dathomirian sith trained from childhood. So it's Darth Maul vs General Grievous from Star Wars. According to the theory, Obi-Wan's high ground line was in reference to his defeat of Maul. It was only Maul using the force to cave the tunnel in that saved him and Savage during the fight with Kenobi in TCW. So 5/10 to either, Going by Legends Grievous probably Maul did not get a lot of feats in the EU and those that he did were on par with the masters Grievous fodderised at times. in his prime and unhindered by his emotions. Takes on multiple jedi with minimal effort. Grievous is in his prime. Love him to bits but I couldn’t give him the win on beating anything. But considering that it looks like it was with no-diff I don't understand why any other force sensitive would have trouble with Grievous at all. Ahsoka was stated by the Rebels crew to be in the top 3 or 4 most skilled Jedi of all time and a match for Vader as well as potentially even Darth Sidious. This post has been designated as a Scan Battle. Sidious also wanted to learn more … Obi-Wan was beating Grievous handily before the clones attacked and he fled. So he’s kind of in the Vader-realm, and he’s a bit severed from what he knew, which was having a master, but he’s well trained by Sidious in all types of Sith ways, not the least of which is manipulation.”. It should be noted that Kenobi was a perfect counter to Grievous since was a master of Form III. Grievous was literally built for the express purpose of killing force users. You're also using scaling in a very strange way. Thank you. She was strong in force sorcery, but at the first sign of trouble she hid in a concealed cave and when she was found by Grievous she turned herself into mist to escape. Grievous vs Maul (Legends Only): Grievous. Grievous killed Talzin, and Talzin is the most powerful being from Dathomir, even more so than Maul and Savage. Fighting her is a lot different than a straight lightsaber duel. I definitely agree with your breakdown and conclusion, except for one thing. There are very few scans in this scan battle. He could guard against all of his strikes with ease. Savage Oppress has his saber as well. They could be cut down pretty easily I reckon. But can you really use scaling when a versus battle relies more on matchups? R1- Maul all day every day. Ventress defeated him on Dathomir in a head-to-head brawl, and I think Maul could do the same. Darth Maul (December 2018) Obi-Wan Kenobi (January 2019) Jango Fett (January 2019) Special (January 2019) Anakin Skywalker (February 2019) Count Dooku (February 2019) Padmé Amidala (March 2019) General Grievous (March 2019) Star Wars: Age of Rebellion. The canon Grievous is The Ultimate Jobber. Kenobi was on the back foot for the entire duel on Mustafar, he only won because Anakin made one fatal mistake. top 3 or 4 most skilled Jedi of all time and a match for Vader. However, Maul also had a long career as a Jedi-killer and assassin. Their fight took place after grievous had his rib cage force-crushed and he developed the cough. But couldn't maul just throw grievous and pin him against the wall with the force? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Grievous certainly had a chance to see Sidious's face, which is barely covered with his hood. The guards are mostly there to seal the battlefield and then poke at them with their staves if grievous has any trouble. Grevious has some crazy feats like solo-ing an entire squad of Jedi and outrunning blaster-fire all over the place. If you notice, every single parent comment was removed except for one. Together, they took control of Mandalore, with Maul becoming its leader. Grievous has his four light sabers and Maul has his dual saber as well as the dark saber to switch with. Maybe 60-40 for Grievous. Grievous never defeated Talzin. Darth Vader – 33 per cent (3422) The Emperor – 18 per cent (1897) Grand Admiral Thrawn – 6 per cent (636) Darth Maul – 6 per cent (632) Boba Fett – 6 per cent (631) General Grievous – 4 per cent (458) Greedo – 4 per cent (399) Moff Gideon – 4 per cent (381) Kylo Ren – 3 per cent (354) Grand Moff Tarkin – 3 per cent (330) He used form 7, specifically juyo, which was an extremely aggressive form of combat. In the 2008 Clone Wars series, we see Obi-Wan fighting pretty evenly with both Darth Maul and Savage Opress at the same time. She uses subtlety and manipulation mostly, empowering others to do her fighting for her or using complex "spells" to curse enemies. General Grievous was the Supreme Commander of the Armies of the Confederacy of Independent Systems during the Clone Wars against the Galactic Republic. I wouldn’t say that Grievous killing Talzin is a notable feat since Talzin was holding off both Sidious and Dooku while he just stabs her, also didn’t Maul beat Grievous in previous issue of SoD? Maul is a Sith Lord "In Name Only" with a hollow title. He takes on 2 at once pretty well. Obi wan defeated grievous but grievous arguably wasn’t at his peak. But I suppose it was Obi wan who did that in the first place. I would not say that Maul is significantly above Fisto, not in canon anyway. The full rules of a Scan Battle can be found here. Maul has better chances in the shown, only Qui gon advantage I see is its size the actor (Liam Neeson) who plays Qui gon is 1.93 tall and the actor (Ray Park) who plays Darth Maul is 1.75. He defenitely wanted him alive, and probably enjoyed playing with him. Talzin was fighting Sidious and Dooku when Grievous finished her off. But Maul is also a Sith, and technically because of Talzin’s magic Savage is a Sith as well, and Grievous is just an asthmatic cyborg. Not to mention Kenobi beats Grievous but still loses to Maul most of the time. Obi wan took them both on and won didn't he? Maul was a Dathomirian Zabrak and the apprentice of Darth Sidious, the Dark Lord of the Sith. Maul in Rebels was able to stalemate Ahsoka, who later went toe to toe with Vader and obviously wounded him pretty badly since he was limping out of the temple at the end of the fight. Grievous also developed a personal vendetta against the Galactic Republic during the war, as the government supported to the Yam'rii. Grievous during the clone wars had been battle hardened, trained in saber combat under Darth Tyranus himself (he was trained as a Jedi slayer) and had all the capabilities and advantages of his mechanical body. Grievous has his four light sabers and Maul has his … Because while Obi-Wan matched up relatively evenly with Anakin, Dooku ragdolled Obi during their encounter in ROTS, but Anakin beat Dooku. As the title says, Darth Maul (Episode 1) vs. General Grievous (Episode 3) in a battle to the death. Remember to follow the Scan Battle rules, all your claims must be backed up my feats and evidence otherwise your comment will be removed. In the Clone Wars 2003 animated series, he was shown as easily defeating 5 jedis with the jedis not even making a scratch on him. Round 1: Force Abilities only ... knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. But who would win if the two faced each other? Not sure if it matters but it says Maul at his prime. In the overall battle the magnas aren’t a huge thing for mainland oppres. This is why the original clone wars cartoon version of grievous is so much better. General Grievous' greatest advantage was the speed and ferocity of his strikes. Darth Maul was an extremely skilled lightsaber duelist. So while Darth Maul is an impressive fighter, he's a really bad match up for General Grievous. R2- but then again without the force even Yoda, Windy, Kenobi, Skywalker etc, couldn’t beat grievous. For support Grievous has his body guards, and Maul has his brother. a fight between Vader and Maul would be close as their combat abilities are well-matched. I think Maul and Grievous are pretty evenly matched, but I think Maul could take him. Anakin Skywalker, Obi Wan Kenobi, Qui gon Jin and Mace Windu VS General Grievous, Darth Maul, Count Dooku, and Chancellor Palpatin. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Grievous was good but he wasn’t Maul good. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Press J to jump to the feed. This was before Obi-Wan had even mastered form 3 to the degree he had in Revenge of the Sith. 6/10 to Maul, Going by canon they fought in the Sons of Dathomir comic and staled each other twice iirc. The battle ground is Dathomir both fighters are at their absolute best and determined to kill each other. “Maul is a super dangerous threat because he’s been trained for years, he’s really adept, but he’s broken. For support Grievous has his body guards, and Maul has his brother. The battle ground is Dathomir both fighters are at their absolute best and determined to kill each other. Darth Maul: 6% (632) 5. I would say prime maul with a dark saber is above obi wan. Obi Wan hammered Oppress and Maul. This is like saying Wedge Antilles has a feat of killing Sidious and Vader because he blew up the Death Star with them on it, or B1 battle droids killed Ki-Adi Mundi while his back was turned as he was fighting the Nova Corps. Darth Maul (Maul) was a male Dathomirian Zabrak Sith Lord who served as the first apprentice of Darth Sidious. Cookies help us deliver our Services. This one I'm not sure about. Two Jedies fight the Darth Maul...with healthbars.The content belongs to 20th Century FoxThis scene is from Episode I: The Phantom Menace Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Albeit because of his light saber form, I know not much apart from the movies, but Kenobi had no big struggle beating grevious, it was one sided. Of his strikes with ease like your `` Savage is 80 % Maul. A master of form III found to break the rules will be removed by the show creators be! 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